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	<title>Comments on: Looking for a Film Music Composer Job Online? Try Out &#8216;Teamscoring&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Former TCC Composer</title>
		<link>http://www.heather-fenoughty.com/composing-music/looking-for-a-film-music-composer-job-online-try-out-teamscoring/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Former TCC Composer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TCC underpays, then claims publishing royalties without ever being assigned them. It&#039;s an exploitative business that feeds on aspiring composers. Avoid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TCC underpays, then claims publishing royalties without ever being assigned them. It&#8217;s an exploitative business that feeds on aspiring composers. Avoid.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.heather-fenoughty.com/composing-music/looking-for-a-film-music-composer-job-online-try-out-teamscoring/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as a follow up - a few reviews here. Doesn&#039;t look to promising...

http://musiclibraryreport.com/music-libraries-a-to-d/composer-collective/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as a follow up &#8211; a few reviews here. Doesn&#8217;t look to promising&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://musiclibraryreport.com/music-libraries-a-to-d/composer-collective/" rel="nofollow">http://musiclibraryreport.com/music-libraries-a-to-d/composer-collective/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan Ignacio Mendoza</title>
		<link>http://www.heather-fenoughty.com/composing-music/looking-for-a-film-music-composer-job-online-try-out-teamscoring/#comment-441</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Ignacio Mendoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello
I work at TCC as team leader of Teamscore.
I&#039;ll be succint.
- All TCC operations are legal.
- Evan does not Claim all the rights of the music. We do not claim mechanical sync. We only Claim publisher&#039;s right. Composers get 100% composers right or a fair split (remember it is a team effort composition scheme).
- We listen to ALL music send by team members.
- If music does not get approved for placement it doesn&#039;t mean it is bad, it just means we and/our client didn&#039;t think it was good to place it in the film.
- Professional film scoring is a VERY tough job.
- Most movies shown at TCC website are prior to Teamscore, therefore Evan got credits as lead/only composer. Check our last major project now in laboratory stage &quot;Chamaco&quot; (2009) at IMDB. Teamscore is rather new, so not all movies are finished, therefore not all credits are on IMDB.
- At TCC management team we are all professional composers, we know EXACTLY how composers feel, so we do our best to give the best possible service.
- Above all we are the only system that guarantees EVERY member has a chance to show their music. We give a service that is worth thousands of dollars for only $100 a year or $8 to try for only one month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello<br />
I work at TCC as team leader of Teamscore.<br />
I&#8217;ll be succint.<br />
- All TCC operations are legal.<br />
- Evan does not Claim all the rights of the music. We do not claim mechanical sync. We only Claim publisher&#8217;s right. Composers get 100% composers right or a fair split (remember it is a team effort composition scheme).<br />
- We listen to ALL music send by team members.<br />
- If music does not get approved for placement it doesn&#8217;t mean it is bad, it just means we and/our client didn&#8217;t think it was good to place it in the film.<br />
- Professional film scoring is a VERY tough job.<br />
- Most movies shown at TCC website are prior to Teamscore, therefore Evan got credits as lead/only composer. Check our last major project now in laboratory stage &#8220;Chamaco&#8221; (2009) at IMDB. Teamscore is rather new, so not all movies are finished, therefore not all credits are on IMDB.<br />
- At TCC management team we are all professional composers, we know EXACTLY how composers feel, so we do our best to give the best possible service.<br />
- Above all we are the only system that guarantees EVERY member has a chance to show their music. We give a service that is worth thousands of dollars for only $100 a year or $8 to try for only one month.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.heather-fenoughty.com/composing-music/looking-for-a-film-music-composer-job-online-try-out-teamscoring/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm... it sounds like you&#039;ve had quite a bad experience.

Firstly, thank you for taking the time to post.

I can only speak from my perspective - I haven&#039;t worked on any of their projects, however I do see their model as being very forward thinking and quite democratic in principle.

In my contact with Evan he&#039;s only ever been professional and friendly, not at all condescending, and very encouraging about my music.

In my contact with people who&#039;ve worked on Composer Collective projects, they&#039;ve had nothing but good things to say about the experience.

A cursory glance at imdb shows that, for example on the film Eyeborgs, he does not take full credit, and all other additional composers are credited too http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043844/fullcredits.

If you disagree with the terms on the website for the uploading of music and rights assigned therewith, then perhaps you should not have joined in the first instance?

Thanks again for posting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230; it sounds like you&#8217;ve had quite a bad experience.</p>
<p>Firstly, thank you for taking the time to post.</p>
<p>I can only speak from my perspective &#8211; I haven&#8217;t worked on any of their projects, however I do see their model as being very forward thinking and quite democratic in principle.</p>
<p>In my contact with Evan he&#8217;s only ever been professional and friendly, not at all condescending, and very encouraging about my music.</p>
<p>In my contact with people who&#8217;ve worked on Composer Collective projects, they&#8217;ve had nothing but good things to say about the experience.</p>
<p>A cursory glance at imdb shows that, for example on the film Eyeborgs, he does not take full credit, and all other additional composers are credited too <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043844/fullcredits" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043844/fullcredits</a>.</p>
<p>If you disagree with the terms on the website for the uploading of music and rights assigned therewith, then perhaps you should not have joined in the first instance?</p>
<p>Thanks again for posting!</p>
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		<title>By: James Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.heather-fenoughty.com/composing-music/looking-for-a-film-music-composer-job-online-try-out-teamscoring/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is a major scam! A fellow composer and I joined this site a few weeks ago. We paid the dues to join and tried to download the reels to get going. Well, it turns out that you pay and then they have to accept your application to &quot;TeamScore&quot; before you have any access to anything. It took them two weeks to approve us. Then you still can&#039;t download anything because they have to give you a password to open it. Then, I&#039;m trying to find some documentation about what rights they have with your uploaded music. There is no such documentation except for this

&quot;Music uploaded to this website becomes licensed property of The Composer Collective, and the form submitter hereby agrees to give full rights to license and derive material for the purposes of fulfilling our oblligations to our Clients, and further indemnifies and holds harmless The Composer Collective and it&#039;s assigns against any copyright infringement or rights disputes as to the originating material or ideas.&quot;

I sent multiple messages to Evan Evans and he only responded with a link to something that had absolutely nothing to do with what I asked. Not to mention that when you read his posts you&#039;ll notice how condescending he is to other composers. He is obviously a musical genius.

Also if you go to his IMDB page which is here - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003563/,

you&#039;ll see that he takes sole credit for composing all of the projects he has up on The Composers Collective. He doesn&#039;t even mention The Composers Collective on any of the films, so you&#039;re not going to get any kind of exposure.

Also, Evan claims all the sync, licensing, and all other associated fees and pays you $50.00 per minute of music. Which is a royal scam if you know anything about film composing.

Also, they show an incredible amount of favoritism to their friends. We posted various ideas and they were passed right over, like they weren&#039;t even there. While other members work is commented and praised within hours, we got no response what so ever. I&#039;d hate to think our music is as bad as they would make it seem.

I hope you will all think twice before submitting anything to these buffoons. Of course if you enjoy being around arrogant pricks who like to stroke each others egos, you&#039;ll feel right at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is a major scam! A fellow composer and I joined this site a few weeks ago. We paid the dues to join and tried to download the reels to get going. Well, it turns out that you pay and then they have to accept your application to &#8220;TeamScore&#8221; before you have any access to anything. It took them two weeks to approve us. Then you still can&#8217;t download anything because they have to give you a password to open it. Then, I&#8217;m trying to find some documentation about what rights they have with your uploaded music. There is no such documentation except for this</p>
<p>&#8220;Music uploaded to this website becomes licensed property of The Composer Collective, and the form submitter hereby agrees to give full rights to license and derive material for the purposes of fulfilling our oblligations to our Clients, and further indemnifies and holds harmless The Composer Collective and it&#8217;s assigns against any copyright infringement or rights disputes as to the originating material or ideas.&#8221;</p>
<p>I sent multiple messages to Evan Evans and he only responded with a link to something that had absolutely nothing to do with what I asked. Not to mention that when you read his posts you&#8217;ll notice how condescending he is to other composers. He is obviously a musical genius.</p>
<p>Also if you go to his IMDB page which is here &#8211; <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003563/" rel="nofollow">http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0003563/</a>,</p>
<p>you&#8217;ll see that he takes sole credit for composing all of the projects he has up on The Composers Collective. He doesn&#8217;t even mention The Composers Collective on any of the films, so you&#8217;re not going to get any kind of exposure.</p>
<p>Also, Evan claims all the sync, licensing, and all other associated fees and pays you $50.00 per minute of music. Which is a royal scam if you know anything about film composing.</p>
<p>Also, they show an incredible amount of favoritism to their friends. We posted various ideas and they were passed right over, like they weren&#8217;t even there. While other members work is commented and praised within hours, we got no response what so ever. I&#8217;d hate to think our music is as bad as they would make it seem.</p>
<p>I hope you will all think twice before submitting anything to these buffoons. Of course if you enjoy being around arrogant pricks who like to stroke each others egos, you&#8217;ll feel right at home.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your support  Cybill!</description>
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